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**Samurai02008** · 02-10-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KosherKrackers

With that said, perhaps the country in question ought to allow abortion in cases such as the mentioned one, it isn't the mothers fault.

Anyone can say that people having se*x ought to accept the responsibility for their actions, and yet we live in a society where people make thousands on frivolous lawsuits against fast food chains due to spilling their coffee on themselves, or against soft drink corporations for making them fat. We live in a society that is currently built around the scapegoat, and you're choosing to protest only this particular part of it.

I can understand your reasons, and I may disagree, but if the responsibility, knowing the risks, etc, etc, applies to this, it applies to everything, and the society we live in nullifies that argument.

Ok first off abortion and frivolous lawsuits are two completely different things. And unless fast food restaraunts or soft drink corporations became living things, this is completely off topic.

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Originally Posted by KosherKrackers

In case you hadn't guessed, I'm all for abortion, at least in the embrionic and early fetal stages, I'm not convinced it's justified in the later stages, but I wouldn't deny someone the choice for the simple reason of it being there body.

And until it's removed, don't kid yourselves thinking it's a seperate one, yes, it may well be able to exist outside the host, but while in the womb it's connected to the mother, is sustained by the nutrients in her blood, ingested by her food, it does not breathe, it absorbs the oxygen it needs directly from her bloodstream, and while it may produce blood, it's certainly not its own blood, as where does it go afterwards? That's right, straight back up to the mother.

While in the womb the fetus behaves like a tumour or a parasite, human beings do not gain nourishment and oxygen directly from a host body.

With that said, placing all irrational morality aside, is it not logical that we ought have the right to flush parasites and tumour from ourselves if we deem fit? Is it not our body?

So this is whats its come down to huh, calling the baby a parasite as long as it is inside the mothers womb. Ok, you say that while inside the mothers womb its completely part of the mothers body just because everything that happens goes straight back to the mother. Then how do you explain the fact that its heart beats of its own accord. It moves of its own accord. Please explain this to me. And to answer your last question "Is it not our body?" Here is my response. Our body is our body and the babies body is a babies body. They are completely seperate from conseption to birth!