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Old 02-11-2008, 12:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Ok first off abortion and frivolous lawsuits are two completely different things. And unless fast food restaraunts or soft drink corporations became living things, this is completely off topic.
Admittedly they are a touch off centre, but my analogy was not with the things themselves, but with the underlying lack of responsibility demonstrated by these common practices, and regardless of whether or not the topics themselves have anything to do with it, the lack of connection between action and consequence in todays society stands firm, they are merely a demonstration of that.

And they are indeed applicable to that aspect of this discussion.

Point to where my reasoning is flawed please, rather than simply dismissing it on a whim because it suits you.

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Then how do you explain the fact that its heart beats of its own accord. It moves of its own accord.
I fail to see how this makes it an entity seperate to a parasite, point me to a macroscopic parastical organism that does not move of its own accord, that does not have a beating heart, that does not rely on the host for nourishment.

Parasite: Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

Now, where exactly does a fetus differ from the definition in any way but potential?

Of course, that's what it comes down to, potential. A fetus has the potential to become a human being, a parasite does not, however, if we modelled our perceptions on potential rather than reality, well, you wouldn't keep matches around the house, or lighters, as they have the potential to cause a house fire. You wouldn't drive, as that has the potential to cause brain damage to people who may inhale the fumes.

It's all rather silly to model things on potential when that potential doesn't end with a human, isn't it?

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Here is my response. Our body is our body and the babies body is a babies body. They are completely seperate from conseption to birth!
A baby and a fetus are two very, very different things, for someone so hung up on pedantry, and remaining on the point, you've rather let yourself slip here.

I could well say that ponies are made of candyfloss and that the sun is in fact a 1000000000000000000000000000 watt lightbulb that burns out everyday, hence nighttime, and is replaced in the morning.

What one says is irrelevant if you have nothing reasonable to offer to back it up, putting aside the "Yeah, but it could be a human one day!" whinging and moral silliness, point me to what differentiates it from a parasite before it's born, because otherwise, you're simply arguing opinion, and by making abortion illegal, forcing your own on everyone else, damned be the consequences.
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