slohcinetak

Well both those methods are absolutely horrible and abortion should definetly not be done at all if its to be done that way :-\

zanthlion

I haven't read the whole article, but in my opinion, it's a pretty simple thing t decide. If pregnancy is going to kill the mother, or if the woman was raped, then I say you have the right to choose. Although, if you're too young and THAT'S the reason it could kill you, I say charge manslaughter. If it's just some weird condition, cause there are like 20 something years old woman who have complications that could kill them, then it's not a crime. Abortion, just cause you like sex and didn't worry about protection, is just wrong. And I haerd that once the baby is at a certain point, like 6 months or something, you can't do an abortion anyway.

Oh yeah, and i read the article. Nothing about abortion in there. Kid was just born early and I believe it was due to the invitro conception.

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Exigious

If you don't wanna have a baby, don't have sex.

If your going to have sex still use all the protection you can.

If you become pregnant, then it's your own damned fault, you knew the consequences and or the possibilities.

So if you get that baby sucked out of you because You can't handle it at such a young age, your an idiot.

Rape is the only time I would think abortion is 'okay' if even that.

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i think it is a crime
its so mean
the women could just use birth control pills

zanthlion

Yes, they could, but for some reason, alot don't. Plus, even with nirth control, it's still possible to become pregnant. Also, some people can't afford the pills....which makes me wonder how they can afford the operation....hmmmm.....

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brewhaha

i dont believe it is a crime because how can anything before a featus think [i doubt even a featus can think] "its good to be alive"

and wouldnt you rather people getting rid of babies through an operation rather then the mother forcing a stillborn just so she doesnt have to care for the child. so either way if they really dont want the baby its gunna die

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isshinUZu

i believe that it is a persons choice to have an abortion or not to have one. it should not be a crime, but allowed to anybody who wants to have one

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Benawolnow

What all the stuff that I wrote on the bottem basically says is that I don't think abortion is a crime and I accept it like I accept different races, gender, religions, etc...



I think that it isn't a crime because if I ever get a wife and she gets raped or will die if she has the baby then I would want a abortion. I am PROabortion because the parents has the right to decide. Who was the baby made by? Who's cells were used to form another cell? If anyone who is saying that abortion is a crime then think about it this way. If you let the baby live because you didn't want to kill him/her then doesn't that baby owe you a lot? Is it even possible to buy a life, I mean to buy a soul and buy someone?(besides kidnapping and all those black market stuff o.o)No, I don't think so. Doesn't the baby owe you everything they own because you gave birth to them and you gave them their life? I am not saying mom and dad and child owing I am saying the whole sha-bam. Like giving everything you own in items, stock markets, house, and everything and be the slave of the parents?Is there even a price for buying someone's cells? I don't think so and if anyone wants to get technical then I will be here for that.

PlagueZXS

Well unless its rape like others have already said you were obviously doing something you shouldn't have. So regardless if you think that the parents are giving so much up for the child i don't really think its right to have an abortion just because you don't want to have a child it has become your responsibility once you decided to consent to the act of *** with the partner. Lets not forget that their is a man who helped.

Samurai02008

I cant stand the thought that people would want an abortion. There is only one reason that I can think of that an abortion should even take place and that is if both the baby and the mothers lives were at stake and one had to be sacrificed to save the other. But even for a rape victem, its not right because the child did nothing wrong at all except for being concieved. There is no reason that the mother should hold that kind of wait and responsibility over the childs head like that and expect the child to willingly and obediently carry that burden. Also if the parent does not want the baby, well thats why we have orphanges and adoption homes for children. I just cant understand how anyone would consent to the idea of abortion. Trust me the things those doctors do to perform an abortion is far worse than anything else that happens anymore. If the parent doesnt want the child give it up for adoption. Whats the worst that could happen? Sorry for going on such a long rant everyone. I just dont understand why get an abortion when there are so many other choices to choose from. How do you know that the baby doesnt think? For all you know it could be doing anything including thinking. How does a person move their legs and arms, move their heads, move any part of their body? By the synapsis' controlled in the brain. I am not trying to start anything I just thought that I would point that out. Just because a baby hasnt even come into the world and had a chance to grow yet doesnt mean that there is some form of brain activity going on in the brain of a baby. They kick they feed and drink just as much in the womb as they do outside the womb.

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Skotophagotis

Hm, as a female, I think its up to the woman to decide.

Yet, I think the whole issue on abortion is just a physical way of viewing people's philosophy; existentialism, metaphysical, etc. So really, there is no answer to this question unless the government wants to decide how we view life.

Personally, as dictates my shifty philosophy, feti cannot think in the way more formed brains can (which probably doesn't happen until 3 years or so- I'm not sure with babies) so its like applying the "I think therefore I am" to it, since it cannot speak, think or process more than basic survival skills (like animals) it can be killed without it being a crime. At least we're not eating them, like humans do animals, that would be sick(er?). And in case my argument gets some anger, you can't attack my person (Yay propaganda...) for comparing humans and animals, I haven't eaten meat in a long time nor bought any animal cloth products.

As I said, it depends on the woman, yet I don't think it should become a form of birth control, people need to be more precautious anyways with diseases passed around. As a side note about the comment about birth control pills: some females reject and can be violently allergic to the fake hormones in those pills and cannot take them.

Essentially: it's not a crime to me. I agree with Naga and the others.

Samurai02008

Actually Babies have just as much intellegence in the womb as they do at three years old. I watch a segment on the discovery channel and they talked about how a baby in the womb reacted to sounds that the baby did not know. Everytime the baby heard a sound that scared it. The baby would react with drawing its self back and essentially cradling itself. So please explain to me how it cant think like a 3 year old can if its making reactions like that?

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Skotophagotis

Hm, I do have that issue about not making my thoughts clear enough, sorry. My argument there was that fetus are much like animals, they aren't sentient of their surroundings, they are essentially in that dream-state that many philosophers argued over until Descarte came up with the "I think therefore I am" statement.

As an analogy, I recent got a pet kitten who attacks me if I'm under my sheets, which is to say she does not connect that the half-body sticking out of the sheets is connected to the other part of the body under the sheets. She does not know of its existence any further than that. My roomate pointed out that babies have that same quality (He has babysat his baby sister and brother on multiple occassions and "experimented" so to speak). Parents play peek-a-boo with babies and babies are shocked that the face comes from behind the hands because once the face is hidden it no longer exists to them. Once babies get to understand that it is still there, peek-a-boo is pointless. My friend did that same concept but with a ball, he covered it with a sheet and the baby looked all over for the ball even though it was right in front of him and there was a large bump on the floor in the shape of a ball.

That is what I meant by that, feti and small babies have instincts indeed, and can retract in fear to unknown sounds as a baby deer might, or a fetus orangutan might.

Forgive me if my elaboration still doesn't make sense, I tend to have problems choosing the right words to express my thoughts sometimes.

Samurai02008

Thanks for proving my point. I will admit I am mistaken about a fetus having as much activity in the brain, but it still proves that a baby is alive inside the womb. So there fore I donot think that an abortion should be warented.

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myishi

NOT a crime.
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