USA = Police State - Page 2

**Avankiri** · 06-26-2008, 07:38 AM

Who cares about some Youtube video. People post the stupidest and most random shit on there, just to take a shot at anybody they can. It's already been proven that we helped the Germans, as well as anybody else, in World War II, before we joined it ourselves.

...Asa...I didn't say any fucking shit about Hitler. I don't give a damn about Germany, or the U.S. They're both just human owned land run by little corporate people who think money is the best way to get through in life. Disgusting, pathetic, useless bags of coin and paper. That's all.

And people wonder why I hate the idea of me being human.

**Asa** · 06-26-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stantonic_funk_raven

Ur actually completely right asa, there is actual proof that americans financed the germans in world war 2, & profited from it & that there profiting from the war in iraq, theres a movie called zeitgeist, that keeps getting banned from youtube, it is split up in to three sections & i think the second 2 sections out of the three are based solely on exposing americas government & shows all the evadence behind it, also since 9/11 a new law was passed anyone in america can now be taken into custody under suspision of terrism at anytime in the name of ur saftey & ur president has admitted to torturing terror suspects & claims that its all a-ok, i dont mean to offend i hav no problem wiv the american people whove done nothing wrong but this the government were talking about here & its got nothing to wiv kicking ppls arses, this is bad shit & even if u really dont think this is true then its definatly worth doing some research on it for yourselfs

i watched the zeitgeist movie and after it "Martial Law - Rise of a Police State" which is a bit more terrifying

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Originally Posted by Avankiri

Who cares about some Youtube video. People post the stupidest and most random shit on there, just to take a shot at anybody they can. It's already been proven that we helped the Germans, as well as anybody else, in World War II, before we joined it ourselves.

this is nothing someone filmed and put it up ojn yt or anywhere else it is a documentary putting up there, so anyone can watch it

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Originally Posted by Avankiri

...Asa...I didn't say any fucking shit about Hitler. I don't give a damn about Germany, or the U.S. They're both just human owned land run by little corporate people who think money is the best way to get through in life. Disgusting, pathetic, useless bags of coin and paper. That's all.

hmm...i would say i think the same as u...especially about the money and that stuff...

*hoboX10* · 06-26-2008, 08:24 AM

Wait so is the bullshit over?

**stantonic_funk_raven** · 06-26-2008, 08:28 AM

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com you can watch the movie through the website & there are plenty more documentrys, books &information sites on this subject, the first part of the zeitgeist movies though is about religion its the second 2 parts that are about america & 9/11, this explains how america profitd in the war, also, the reason NORAD took so long on 9/11 was because they were doing a hijacking simulation for the exact same thing at the exact same time so they cudnt tell what was the simulation and what was the real hijacking, if thats not conquincidence enough, the same thing happened to us in england on the 7/7 bombblasts that took place in the london underground, the reason the emergency services didnt kno what to do was because of the extact same thing, a simulation of that exact incident in the exact same place, mm.. sligthly too many conquincidences for me.... look, i dont mean to piss ppl off but really, this sickens me aswell & whatever you believe its always worth checking this shit out for yourself, also check out 9/11 loose change, this is documentry on 9/11 that u can get off ebay, happy reseaching.......

**Avankiri** · 06-26-2008, 08:28 AM

I just got one question...

Why in hell are we fighting over this to begin with?

**Asa** · 06-26-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hoboX10

Wait so is the bullshit over?

how should this work if no one want ot watch the videos....
a discussion should be based on the same information for everyone...even if it´s desinformation(some ppl would call it so -_-)

**Brandonel1** · 06-26-2008, 08:55 AM

I do have another question if were profiting so much from the wars then why are we in a trillion dollars debt right now?

**stantonic_funk_raven** · 06-26-2008, 09:05 AM

Your actually in debt to ur own banks, they charge interest on the money they giv out to their own country, Americas the richest country in the world & ur in debt wiv your own bankers, this actually isnt anything to do wiv any conspiracy theories at all, its just the way things work i think

**Brandonel1** · 06-26-2008, 09:21 AM

We are in debt to our own banks we dont withdraw money from banks for goverment funded projects and such thats what the treasury is for if they withdrew all that money then how could other people get money there would be none and banks dont charge interest for withdrawing money i dont really see any reason for loans what ive alwaays heard is that we borrowed money and supplies from other countries

**stantonic_funk_raven** · 06-26-2008, 12:34 PM

uumm... well thats the way i think it works to my knowlegde but you sound like you kno what ur tlking about so ill take ur word for it, i dont think ive ever heard of america borrowing money from other countrys tho

**Asa** · 06-26-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandonel1

I do have another question if were profiting so much from the wars then why are we in a trillion dollars debt right now?

the other thing is...u don´t profiting from the war...a small group is profiting...mostley all of them are members of Skull & Bones( a group at the Yale University, which is said to be a nationalistic and satanistic group that has roots in germany and the illuminati, 3 generations of the Bush family where in it and also his cousin Kerry and many many other ppl which are now leading big companies, which are also often involved in wars and making profits with them)

at the end it is all about the money and power...i just don´t understand those ppl...wanting to bring whole countries down, just for there profit...and it´s not like it´s just in the USA...we here in germany are next to this...when everyone has his RFID chip implanted in 2012...and the goverment can see what u buy in stores, if it´s healty what u buy there, if u buy alcohol or tobaco (interesting for the health insurance) where u walk, how often u walk there which ppl u met and stuff like that...1984 is not a fiction anymore

**Harry MacDougall** · 06-26-2008, 01:49 PM

Yea the U.S has done some pretty shameless things but look at what other countries have done and you will see the U.S isnt that bad trust me.

**Brandonel1** · 06-26-2008, 04:57 PM

well then screw that small organization they need to be more patriotic and help America those bastards

**feanor** · 06-26-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandonel1

well then screw that small organization they need to be more patriotic and help America those bastards

That's exactly the point, they don't care for America, all they want is to gain profit, and the USA happen to be the ideal country to pull it off. They push them into war and by keeping the wheels running they earn with the arms trade.

Concerning this the-US-supported-the-nazi-thing, you got something wrong. It wasn't the US-Government who supported the Nazi party, there had been a franchise between a German chemistry company, IG Farben, in English "syndicate of dyestuff corporations", and an American oil company, I forgot the name, which provided the German army with equipment. So to say, without the American oil, the German Tanks wouldn't have rolled. But it doesn't really matter, business is business, if the oil wasn't provided by the Americans, they would have bought it elsewhere.

**kingmarx** · 06-26-2008, 08:39 PM

True business is business all around the world, but mainly after world war two the western world were looking to containt the communist revolution in russia ( because communism and capitalism are oposites ) and the made some initial friendships with Germany. Hitler like wise did not piss off any of the world power until he had what he needed from them, taking advatage of their desrie for piece. regardless Hitler rose to power because of the dire situation in Germany during the great depression, once in power he reorganized the gov't and keep taking land until he enfuriated the allies. likewise the allies ignored Hitler until it was too late because the were still stunt from the last war.
now concerning America being a police state, it is true, America is the sole police state since the fall of the USSR because it is the only country powerful enough to intervine anywhere ( specially with USSR out of the picture ), I guess with great power comes great reposibility and corruption.
Last thing anything that the US does is centered around money ( A side effect of capitalism ) every war the country has had, has it monetary value. Those in power are just taking advantage of this inheret need and making money off it. And the ironic thing is that they are actually making the country more powerful because war pushes the advacement of this nation ( war is one of the biggest industries in the US and debt is the biggest source of income in the nation ). It may not benefit the public but the American goverment is very strong and as a nation there is no question that what ever it is doing it is working because there is no country that could stand against it ( well maybe Russia, but that becasue it has a lot of Nukes and it would be a tie any how ).