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What I don't understand about liscensing companies (and my biggest beef) is the amount of time it takes for anime to be released. It doesn't make much sense to me that in this day and age it takes years for most anime to be released. I would think they would be able to release subbed versions quite quickly and then release dubbed versions later.

Also, why the lack of internet distribution? I know Itunes is starting to get anime but why did it take so long? Fansubbers have been sharing anime over the net since, well, probably the beginning of the internet.

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Probably wouldn't work as well. No one would buy crappy quality products over the net when they can download better quality ones at the same speed with free fansubbers.

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Well I can understand that, but that then begs the question. Why don't they increase the quality of there subs? (I understand that dubs are extremely expensive so high quality dubs can be hard to come by) If your translators are crap fire em and hire fansubbers or people who can actually translate.

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Exactly the same thing I said before, they SHOULD get better subbers. The thing is I don't think the companies actually care as much about the fansubbing as they do the merchandising. So they basically do half-assed work on the actual Anime. But hopefully they'll learn, I mean I'm sure they can realize why people are downloading instead of buying.

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Well I guess its like my dad says people are just lazy.

However in this case it seems like the people who are trying to make a buck are the ones being lazy and not deserving of the money they're (trying) to make.

QuieT.StorM

Well technically they own it so they can do whatever, but yeah they aren't doing anything productive to stop pirating so they're just bringing it upon themselves.

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If you made a series which you hoped to make a significant amount of money off of, would you be happy if people were spreading them for free so you don't make anything off it?

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In most cases I would agree with the point ur making, but in the case of anime, the internet helps it gain popularity outside of Japan, and increases its potential audience, as many ppl have already pointed out. I personally try to buy anime as often as I can afford to if I am a fan of the series (as do many other ppl), without the internet mayb I wud not b aware of all the series I enjoy and so I would never have bought them in the first place, how can that be a loss? They have actually gained buyers via the internet!

The main problem I hav with license holders is they realease episodes in buddle of 4-5 per DVD and charge around £20, thats a lot of money to pay out if u watching a 50+ episode series. Also I find the subs (especially dubs) and overall quality to be quite poor on comparrison to many fansub releases. Ill still buy anime when I can, but if they sorted that out ppl wud buy a lot more and they wud earn even more money!

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If you have a shit project, you have a shit project, improve the quality of your goods before you ask why people are ripping you off and pirating. Currently the companies are releasing crappy quality work, so why would people buy it. And again they make most of their money of merchandising anyway

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The point he was saying is, regardless if it was crappy, it's not intended to be thrown around "freely". It's intended to gain money for them.

Take my favorite manga Berserk for example, people were uploading that and everything then Dark horse comics said "Yah no.....get that off of the site now." So now you have to buy the volumes instead of actually reading them for free. Which I'm mad about that but eh...their decision. Understandable too.

If it's meant for profit, then it doesn't matter if it's crappy or great, they will most likely find ways to make you buy it instead of throwing it around for everyone to see for free.

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Ok but the idea is that they wont succeed in eliminating anything until and unless theyhg learn to improve the quality of their products. Take the death not CND for example. They threatened to sue, the next day two underground fandsubs released the next episode highquality subbed. So, sure it's meant for profit, but you wont make profit on something unless you make it worth buying. If they really wanted to change anything that much then they would change the quality of their material.

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i dont see it as fair, to buy 3 episodes of speed grapher i have 2 work for 4 hours. (£20 roughly about $40)

for that price i can buy a full series of CSI/House or even 2 seasons of family guy, how is that fair on me, what if ive never seen it and i dont like the series, thats a waste of alot my money with no refund.

im happy to buy anime i like, but not a chance in hell with they kind of prices

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Ghos7Soldier

Go to the bottom of my post for a short and personal belief on the matter.

That's not the point if it's crappy or not. It doesn't matter...if they want it down then it needs to be taken down. We are in the wrong regardless whether if it's crappy. And if they wanted to take the extra mile they could go ahead and slap a lawsuit on you as well if they found you hosting any videos that they want taken off, EVEN if the video is crappy.
Of course it's not going to ELIMINATE it...but if they wanted to they can make damn sure to put fear into anyone that uploads a video that they might get sued as well.

If they aren't making money off of it because it's crappy then oh well..apparently it sucks. But if they want it off the internet being pirated then that's their call and technically...they will succeed. Money speaks louder than how crappy something is or anything in general. And even over lawsuits, they could potentionally gain more money by that than they are selling their stuff. So either way, even if we complain about it. They win legally.

It sucks, but laws and laws and rules are rules. In the legal system, they win, we lose.

Personally, it's better off to just move on and just shrug it off.

Wow, reminds me of this discussion I had with my grandma earlier toda..well..yesterday...but that was more of the owners fault than the citizens...

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Each their own I suppose.

I just don't see anything wrong with them wanting it off really. They own it, we don't. If they want if off the internet, that can be arranged by legal means and the owners who uploaded/pirated the stuff illegal basically lose automatically if they don't comply with the owners wishes.


Prices are prices, in all honesty the economy is fucked up here in USA but complaining about it gets us nowhere really. Though, it does help to vent off about it though.

If you've never seen it then try to look over the internet for reviews about it or something before actually spending money on it. It basically goes for all products. If you just go and blindly buy it without looking anything up about it, you're basically setting yourself up with that problem.

But hey, if you enjoy it that much to pay for it then the money is well spent. If you want it for less then look around some areas that MIGHT sell it for less internet/city wise.

Man, you'd be surprised of the places you can find that gives things for cheap.

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Also, congrats. I'm half tired and even I got interested in this when I thought I wouldn't. It's kinda waking me up.

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Ryuuk

Damn dude. I never pay for anything that I can get for free. Hell, if I could've stolen my computer hardware, the comp and everything on it would be 100% pirated.