Kyuubi & Naruto

**Reaper** · 04-15-2008, 04:10 PM

I had some questions about the relationship between the Kyuubi and Naruto.
I already have an answer to most of my questions, but I'm curious what other ppl think.

1. Would the Kyuubi die if Naruto dies?
2. Does the Kyuubi hates Naruto or would he have a certain respect for him?
3. Why would Yodaime (4th Hokage) seal it in Naruto and not in an animal and then kill the animal (if the answer to my first question is "Yes" :p)

cause sometimes I get the feeling the Kyuubi has a certain respect for Naruto and enjoys giving Naruto his power and doesn't always give his chakra so that Naruto woudn't die. Or would he only do this so that the chances that Naruto die become smaller and to cause more destruction.

I Know one reason why the 4th would seal it in Naruto

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But does any1 has another idea?

If you have a theory or whatever you think about the kyuubi, feel free to post it here

**Jakku** · 04-15-2008, 04:12 PM

1. Yes the Kyuubi would die if naruto dies.
2. I think the kyuubi has a certain respect for him, but its not like a 'bond' or anything simular to that

**Satsu** · 04-15-2008, 04:46 PM

1) This is a bit ambiguous, least to me, to be honest.

During the previous times that Naruto has come close to death, the fox has been seen complaining that everything was becoming dark and cold, indicating that he too would die if Naruto were to perish (it would also explain the instinctive defensive abilities as shown by Gaara's sand shield and the Demon Fox's cloak).

However, when you take the conversation into account that he had with Sasuke and Naruto within Naruto's mind, and how he essentially warned Sasuke that killing Naruto would have grave consequences. This would seem to suggest that Naruto's death might actually release him.

Further evidence of this might be with the other bijū, most of them have been sealed within Jinchūriki before. It's obvious that those hosts have died, yet the bijū still exist. It's possible that they're merely supernatural manifestations, and as such they might be effectively immortal.

You might be able to banish them for a while by destroying their physical form, but in the end they'd come into being again, because that which spawned them still exists. Seem to recall that the Kyuubi was associated with malice, suffering and unbound ambition.

2) A loathing respect is what Wikipedia claims, and that's directed both at Naruto and his father. So why give Naruto a power boost when he asks for it? Initially, it probably was curiosity maybe mixed with amusement. Later, it was clearly an attempt to gain influence over him, as we saw with the recent confrontation between the two. In which he essentially told Naruto that Naruto was nothing without him.

3) The man had a plan, what that plan was.. Unknown.. We do have to realize that half of the Kyūbi's power has been locked away. The Yang chakra is accessible by Naruto, whereas the Yin half isn't. That might be locked within the the Shinigami summoned with the Dead Demon Consuming Seal.

**Reaper** · 04-15-2008, 07:21 PM

I was wondering about the reincarnation of the kyuubi myself. Like you said he warned Sasuke not to kill Naruto or else he would make sasuke pay. But I didn't see the point in warning him if he would be released, cause isn't that what the kyuubi would want? Unless the Kyuubi would have some sort of master plan, but I don't see him as a great mastermind.
Maybe what the Kyuubi meant was, when Sasuke would try to kill Naruto, the Kyuubi would save Naruto with his chakra and then kill Sasuke (like in the fight between Naruto and Sasuke on the lake, where the kyuubi healed Naruto's wound by the chidori).
So that means the Kyuubi would die, unless for some reason he just doesn't want Naruto to die.

**Satsu** · 04-16-2008, 01:05 AM

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I was wondering about the reincarnation of the kyuubi myself. Like you said he warned Sasuke not to kill Naruto or else he would make sasuke pay. But I didn't see the point in warning him if he would be released, cause isn't that what the kyuubi would want? Unless the Kyuubi would have some sort of master plan, but I don't see him as a great mastermind.
Maybe what the Kyuubi meant was, when Sasuke would try to kill Naruto, the Kyuubi would save Naruto with his chakra and then kill Sasuke (like in the fight between Naruto and Sasuke on the lake, where the kyuubi healed Naruto's wound by the chidori).
So that means the Kyuubi would die, unless for some reason he just doesn't want Naruto to die.

All the points you made are definitely possible.
I guess it kind of depends upon your exact definition of release.

If, they are supernatural entities formed due to negative human emotions, then the current Kyūbi would perish, if Sasuke were to kill Naruto. But if that what creates the Kyūbi still exists (and considering human nature that's almost a given), then eventually a new Kyūbi would be formed. Possibly with the memories of the previous one (situation akin to that of a Phoenix) and that one would subsequently hunt Sasuke down for some payback.

The Kyūbi has an ego, which is comparable to that of Gabriel from the movie The Prophecy. It doesn't seem to like to take any insults from anything that it considers a lesser being, and compared to it, nearly everything is a lesser being.

I'm guessing that death would be an inconvenience to such a creature, even if it could reform itself.

Guess all of this also depends upon what exactly the bijū are, what created them, sustains them etc.

**hoboX10** · 04-16-2008, 01:28 AM

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However, when you take the conversation into account that he had with Sasuke and Naruto within Naruto's mind, and how he essentially warned Sasuke that killing Naruto would have grave consequences. This would seem to suggest that Naruto's death might actually release him.

No, he would die for certain. The kyuubi himself says "...it is true that if you shall die, then I will too."

**Awaited_sleepless_nights** · 04-16-2008, 04:32 AM

ok you guys I havent read any manga at all...I've only watched the anime...you've got to remember that the biju are the demons (like kyuubi) and they are sealed into humans which then become jinchuuriki (because they have the biju inside of them).

3) Now knowing that, I remember this one episode where grandma from the sand village (the one who fought sasori with sakura) said that the biju are like secret weapons that the villages use to display power. (sort of like a nuclear bomb)...they sealed a biju into gaara so that they would have gaara as a weapon for the sand village...and so I would presumably assume that the kyuubi was sealed into naruto for the same reasons as Gaara. So basically, the villages want to have the jinchuuriki for several reasons....1) other villages less likely to go to war with them (yes the sound village wanted to go to war but its orochimaru who is freakin' god-like anyway AND the sand village has their own jinchuuriki)....2) in times of war the jinchuuriki is the "ultimate weapon/trump card" ....it's basically a display of power between the villages.

As far as will the Kyuubi die if Naruto dies....I'm pretty sure that he will, but I'm not quite sure...I do know that the kyuubi would AT LEAST die temporarily...

and as for does the Kyuubi have respect for him....I think that he does...but not to the point that the kyuubi would want to give up its hopes of living its own life (whether that is through the body of naruto or not...)...I don't think that the kyuubi would put naruto's well being ahead of its own...

**Reaper** · 04-18-2008, 08:23 AM

I don't think the 4th did this so that Naruto would become Konoha's triumph card and greatest weapon.
I believe that he did so that the Kyuubi wouldn't be able to attack the village as long as it is traped in Naruto, cause if we go back to the point that the Bijuu kan reincarnate/ resurect, then it would mean that he would return after he died and could attack the village again. So he probably did this to ensure the safety of the village.

**Itachi** · 06-02-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

I had some questions about the relationship between the Kyuubi and Naruto.
I already have an answer to most of my questions, but I'm curious what other ppl think.

1. Would the Kyuubi die if Naruto dies?
2. Does the Kyuubi hates Naruto or would he have a certain respect for him?
3. Why would Yodaime (4th Hokage) seal it in Naruto and not in an animal and then kill the animal (if the answer to my first question is "Yes" :p)

cause sometimes I get the feeling the Kyuubi has a certain respect for Naruto and enjoys giving Naruto his power and doesn't always give his chakra so that Naruto woudn't die. Or would he only do this so that the chances that Naruto die become smaller and to cause more destruction.

I Know one reason why the 4th would seal it in Naruto

Spoiler

But does any1 has another idea?

If you have a theory or whatever you think about the kyuubi, feel free to post it here

answer to #1: if naruto dies kyuubi dies also. the kyuubi himself said so.

answer to #2: as this is an opinion one it's all left to speculation unless the kyuubi says other wise. but i think the kyuubi both respects naruto and hates him at the same time. respects naruto because atleast through naruto he can still fight, as in if he was dead he couldn't. hates naruto because he is obviously the vessel to seal him in a weaker "state" to say.

answer to #3: in using the demon seal thing Yodaime would die and obviously narutos mother died probably during birth so he was giving him some sort of guardian despite the fact that it's evil and would always make sure naruto was safe to protect his own well being.

**karek** · 06-08-2008, 08:47 PM

That comment about Sasuke killing Naruto being bad for Sasuke seems to have been foreshadowing.

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Possibly answer for 3?:

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**Harry MacDougall** · 06-09-2008, 05:51 PM

I think as far as respect goes he does respect him and he gives his power out of 10% of respect. Now keeping in mind that the Kyuubi is a vicious blood thirsty beast is 90% keeping himself alive, besides hes always telling Naruto to release the seal so he can take over him.

**ItachiShinigami** · 06-12-2008, 05:36 AM

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answer to #3: in using the demon seal thing Yodaime would die and obviously narutos mother died probably during birth so he was giving him some sort of guardian despite the fact that it's evil and would always make sure naruto was safe to protect his own well being.

I Doubt that Naruto's mother

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died of giving birth to naruto. I think she died when the Kyuubi attacked the village.
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1)Yes, I'm positive that the Kyuubi would die if naruto died.

2)Well, to tell the truth I think that the Kyuubi has no respect for naruto at all. No, because the Kyuubi is using naruto all the time! If the Kyuubi had the power to kill naruto (without killing himself) he would do it. Im possitive he would. And if the Kyuubi would have any respect for naruto at all, dont you think that he would'nt always be telling naruto to take the seal of or "without my power your weak" or anything similar to that.

3)Yodaime sealed the Kyuubi inside naruto because why would he risk any living thing that dosent belong to him.

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So if I am correct i think Yodaime sealed the Kyuubi inside naruto because he wanted naruto to be safe in some way!

**Itachi** · 06-13-2008, 06:49 AM

you know i actually thought about this for a while and i know it was brought up here that the kyuubi doesn't respect naruto because he is always calling him weak and what not but you also have to remember that compared to the kyuubi naruto is weak.

**Urahara12** · 06-13-2008, 10:11 AM

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you know i actually thought about this for a while and i know it was brought up here that the kyuubi doesn't respect naruto because he is always calling him weak and what not but you also have to remember that compared to the kyuubi naruto is weak.

lol yh thats true. the kyuubi is the reason why naruto is special and without it, he would be a lot weaker

**Zero357** · 06-13-2008, 07:22 PM

1.The kyubi would die if naruto dies. The kyubi himself said that if naruto dies he would,but their might be a way for him to escape because he gave a warning to sasuke if he kills naruto he will regret it.
2.The kyubi is an evil monster and hates a lot of people including naruto. Also why would he have respect for the persone he is trapped in.(if that happened to me i would hate that persone if i was trapped in him)
3.The 4th hokage probably sealed the kyubi inside naruto because if he sealed it inside an animal the animal couldn't handle the chakra and would probably release the fox and the 4th hokage had no choice but to seal it inside a human and if he sealed it inside some other baby that wasnt his he would be hated. Also i think he sealed the kyubi inside naruto is that he probably couldnt seal the kyubi unless it had some way to get in the body so when he was born the cord that connects u and ur mother(forgot its name)is a way for the kyubi to enter the body(those are just my guesses any ways i havent read the manga but i think im right)